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Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $300
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $900
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $1900
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $225
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg $2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $330
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[Store] Dopplers - Ursus Sapphire / Ruby, ST FN Gamma Doppler P2, Butterfly Ruby, Karambit P2 Huntsman Sapphire More ++ BITCOIN

I'm looking to sell off my doppler collection. Prices are listed in bitcoin (see my cashrep below).I will also accept liquid skins / arcanas, but keep in mind SCM price != crypto price.Please add me with any questions you have.I am also looking to buy skins / entire backpacks with crypto. Add me to discusshttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/537405286641915663/

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Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $300
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $900
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $1900
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $225
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg $2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $330
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[Store] Dopplers - Ursus Sapphire / Ruby, ST FN Gamma Doppler P2, Butterfly Ruby, Karambit P2 Huntsman Sapphire More ++ BITCOIN

I'm looking to sell off my doppler collection. Prices are listed in bitcoin (see my cashrep below).I will also accept liquid skins / arcanas, but keep in mind SCM price != crypto price.Please add me with any questions you have.I am also looking to buy skins / entire backpacks with crypto. Add me to discusshttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/537405286641915663/

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Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Gut Knife FN Emerald FN .032 https://s1.cs.money/ei7GdgD_image.jpg $385
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $305
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $900
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $1900
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $248
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg $2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $330
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[Store] Dopplers - Ursus Sapphire / Ruby, ST FN Gamma Doppler P2, Butterfly Ruby, Karambit P2 Huntsman Sapphire More ++ BITCOIN

I'm looking to sell off my doppler collection. Prices are listed in bitcoin (see my cashrep below).I will also accept liquid skins / arcanas, but keep in mind SCM price != crypto price.Please add me with any questions you have.I am also looking to buy skins / entire backpacks with crypto. Add me to discusshttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/537405286641915663/

https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffenew/?partner=237026451&token=0OKOyjVb

Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Gut Knife FN Emerald FN .032 https://s1.cs.money/ei7GdgD_image.jpg $385
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $305
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $900
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $2000
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $248
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg $2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $330
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[Store] Dopplers - Ursus Sapphire / Ruby, ST FN Gamma Doppler P2, Butterfly Ruby, Karambit P2 Huntsman Sapphire More ++ BITCOIN

I'm looking to sell off my doppler collection. Prices are listed in bitcoin (see my cashrep below).I will also accept liquid skins / arcanas, but keep in mind SCM price != crypto price.Please add me with any questions you have.I am also looking to buy skins / entire backpacks with crypto. Add me to discusshttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/537405286641915663/

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Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Gut Knife FN Emerald FN .032 https://s1.cs.money/ei7GdgD_image.jpg $385
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $315
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $915
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $2050
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $250
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg $2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $335
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[Store] Dopplers - Ursus Sapphire / Ruby, ST FN Gamma Doppler P2, Butterfly Ruby, Karambit P2 Huntsman Sapphire More ++ BITCOIN

I'm looking to sell off my doppler collection. Prices are listed in bitcoin (see my cashrep below).I will also accept liquid skins / arcanas, but keep in mind SCM price != crypto price.Please add me with any questions you have.I am also looking to buy skins / entire backpacks with crypto. Add me to discusshttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/537405286641915663/

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Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Gut Knife FN Emerald FN .032 https://s1.cs.money/ei7GdgD_image.jpg $385
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $315
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $915
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $2050
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $250
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg 2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $346
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[Store] Dopplers - Ursus Sapphire / Ruby, ST FN Gamma Doppler P2, Butterfly Ruby, Karambit P2 Huntsman Sapphire More ++ BITCOIN

I'm looking to sell off my doppler collection. Prices are listed in bitcoin (see my cashrep below).I will also accept liquid skins / arcanas, but keep in mind SCM price != crypto price.Please add me with any questions you have.I am also looking to buy skins / entire backpacks with crypto. Add me to discusshttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/537405286641915663/

https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffenew/?partner=237026451&token=0OKOyjVb

Knife Phase Float Screen Shot B/O Bitcoin
Gut Knife FN Emerald FN .032 https://s1.cs.money/ei7GdgD_image.jpg $385
Flip Knife Gamma FN P2 0.0315 https://s1.cs.money/gr3dynm_image.jpg $315
Huntsman Knife FN Sapphire 0.05 https://s1.cs.money/8P1PNk6_image.jpg $915
Ursus Knife FN Ruby 0.06 https://s1.cs.money/OpWIzRL_image.jpg $2050
Karambit Doppler MW P2 .079 https://s1.cs.money/ePyDO4d_image.jpg 450
Navaja Knife FN Black Pearl 0.03 https://s1.cs.money/i2Oye5V_image.jpg $250
Butterfly Knife FN Ruby 0.011 https://s1.cs.money/eeY1nKT_image.jpg $3890
Ursus Knife FN Sapphire 0.0111 https://s1.cs.money/sz2r9TY_image.jpg 2700
ST FN Kara Gamma Doppler P2 MAX GREEN 0.02 clean corner https://s1.cs.money/DcwdpIC_image.jpg $1100
★ Navaja Knife FN RUBY 0.0343565 https://s1.cs.money/qDKAmMH_image.jpg $346
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Regarding Threads on Bitmain and ASIC Resistance (Mega Thread!)

Guys,
Let’s take a minute to talk about what’s going on. We need to make sure all users are on the same page and the falsifications and assumptions stop.
I'm with you, and I understand that you feel betrayed. However, cleaning up after the constant bickering for those pro-fork and those anti-fork is growing tiresome. It's time we have a civil discussion and talk about facts.

Timeline of events

On 03/31/2018, a user from Ethfans.org posted a video on Telegram of a supposed Ethash ASIC. The video made its way to /Ethermining in a thread. It is important to mention that these values can be modified by changing “get_miner_status.cgi” and “minerStatus.cgi” and that there has been no credible evidence that has popped up in the nine days following the release of the supposed leak. Additionally, the following abnormalities should be noted:
Also on 3/31/2018, a user on Russian site Bits.media noticed that the pre-order for the Bitmain E3 was already up. It was believed to be an April fools joke; needless to say, it wasn’t.
On 04/02/2018, Bitmain launched the E3 and began taking pre-orders for a June delivery. At that time, the price was $800 and promised a hashing power of 180MH/s at 800 watts.
On 04/06/2018, Ethereum core developers decided against hard-forking Ethereum at this time, as they weren't convinced that it would positively impact the community given a hard-fork's disruption and the unknown of how the ASIC worked (specifically if it was programmable). The community became upset over broken promises of ASIC resistance, and this has since spread to a full out finger pointing of who is wrong.
On 04/08/2018, an apparently forged photo showed up showing a higher-hashing ASIC with far less power consumption. This is not only very unlikely, but the link in the photo was gibberish, whereas the E3's link was valid. We're writing that one up as FUD.

The "ASIC Resistance" Argument

At this point, I think that it’s I think it's important that we visit some key points of the Ethereum project. A lot of people have been quoting the whitepaper, calling ETH ASIC-proof and implying that the developers do not care about the problem.
In actuality, Ethereum never promised that it would be ASIC-proof, merely that it would provide an economic incentive to be resistant to the development of an ASIC. I'd like to produce a quote from the Ethereum Wiki, found here.
Ultimately, perfect ASIC resistance is impossible; there are always portions of circuits that are going to be unused by any specific algorithm and that can be trimmed to cut costs in a specialized device. However, what we are looking for is not perfect ASIC resistance but rather economic ASIC resistance.
...
The problem is that measuring an economy in a secure way is a difficult problem. The most obvious metric that the system has access to is mining difficulty, but mining difficulty also goes up with Moore's law and in the short term with ASIC development, and there is no known way to estimate the impact of Moore's law alone and so the currency cannot know if its difficulty increased by 10x due to better hardware, a larger user volume or a combination of both. Other metrics, such as transaction count, are potentially gameable by entities that want the supply to change in a particular direction (generally, holders want a lower supply, miners want a higher supply).
This is solidified by revisiting the whitepaper, specifically the section which identifies how ASICs will be economically stymied:
This model is untested, and there may be difficulties along the way in avoiding certain clever optimizations when using contract execution as a mining algorithm. However, one notably interesting feature of this algorithm is that it allows anyone to "poison the well", by introducing a large number of contracts into the blockchain specifically designed to stymie certain ASICs. The economic incentives exist for ASIC manufacturers to use such a trick to attack each other. Thus, the solution that we are developing is ultimately an adaptive economic human solution rather than purely a technical one.
So with the Ethereum team providing only an economic reason to not develop an ASIC since the beginning, there has been no lie.

Second batch of E3s will not be profitable with Ethereum

As a response to the developers announcing that they are not initiating a hard fork, Bitmain raised the price of the second batch of E3s to $1800. With a PSU ($105) and shipping costs ($225), plus duty fees ($25). That brings each E3 up to $2,155, or $11.97 per MH.
Comparatively, this is like paying $300 per GPU ($1800) plus Mobo/PSU/risers ($355). I have built rigs with similar hashrates for under $1,900 ($10.50 per MH).
If we speculate that Casper is as close as we think (see below), coupled with the rising difficulty, the second batch of E3s are not likely to break-even with Ethereum as a whole. If ETH rises to its ATH, the second batch units may be profitable. Tis the risk of mining.

Current speculation:

  • ASICs are bad!
    • In the Ethereum mining community, ASICs to be viewed as a formidable commodity, when they should rather be viewed as a tool. Tools are never inherently good or bad, but how they are used can be, and some developers intend for the coin to eventually be used with an ASIC. Some coins, such as Sia, were designed to specifically work with an ASIC. > 51% centralization is bad.
  • Bitmain has a better ASIC.
    • Probably. But this is an unknown. Speculation of an ASIC is not a reason to fork the second largest cryptocurrency.
  • Bitmain will be a cause for centralization
    • Everything should be a concern for centralization. Hell, early miners can be a bigger concern. The principals of economies of scale still apply to mining; so those who started out with a lot of GPUs are heavily mining. I've set up warehouses full of GPUs for clients, so if you think some of the guys here are big shots, I promise you there are larger concerns for the current state of centralization.
    • I will also note that yes, we will need to worry about a mass-manufacturer of just ASICs, especially if they are pumping out > 30,000 units per month at the current rate. But the firm that uncovered Bitmain's ASIC, Susquehannah, claims that there are at least three other ASIC manufacturers out there. This puts some silent competition on Bitmain.
  • Ethereum is not as centralized as Bitcoin
    • You'd think that, and the goal of the whitepaper was for Ethereum to be less centralized as bitcoin. It even mentions that "three mining pools indirectly control roughly 50% of processing power in the Bitcoin network." Ethereum is in this state already. Ethermine controls ~28% of the network hashrate, F2pool has ~17%, and SparkPool has ~15%. Arguably, the Ethereum network is in a more sensitive state.
  • Casper is right around the corner.
    • This has been speculation for some time now. Developers confirmed that testnet should be fully operational by August, meaning that we may be able to expect PoS hybrid by DecembeJanuary assuming everything goes as planned.
  • Dev team does not care about miners
    • In the project's current state, miners are a necessity. Remember that seigniorage must be sinigicant enough for miners to continue mining, otherwise, the network would slow and we'd have another Crypto Kitties incident on our hands. Until Ethereum is PoS, you are valid.
  • Dev team wants to get rid of miners
    • Well, yeah. That's what PoS is about. Ethereum will not be Proof of Work forever and that needs to be appreciated.
  • We should fork ourselves into an ASIC-proof currency
    • Do it! Take some initiative and work up a team, I'll be happy to help and support in any way that I can, including pointing my hashing power your way.

Ethereum decision governance

Right now, large decisions are made by the Ethereum core developers. This last decision to not hard-fork was not well received by the community. It feels to be almost an "electoral college" kind of deal, and that's something that has upset a lot of people. Is this the topic that we need to discuss in more detail?

So what is this thread?

For now, this is going to replace our weekly discussion for a few weeks until everything calms down. The sub is in a volatile state and everyone is slinging FUD at everyone else. We need to clean up and calmly discuss our position on the matter at hand. This means:
  • No more fighting about the ASIC in the comments
  • OUTSIDE OF THIS THREAD, please do not shitpost. Meaning, no more strongly worded threads about how you're out of mining completely because of the ASIC, or how the developers screwed you over because ETH was supposed to be ASIC proof, or how people are whining. I'm deleting threads left and right for people who are just using the sub as an outlet to name call on both sides.
  • As always, constructive threads are welcome, but shitposts are to be confined to this thread, please.

We all have different opinions

I am going to remain neutral on this topic. I mine with both GPUs and ASICs, and I've worked with countless numbers of people who do as well. We need to cooperate as a community instead of tearing each other apart over the issue. Let's think before we post and keep comments constructive.
Happy mining!
  • Rob
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Regardless of what happens with WafflePool in the near future, today's 51% attack scare highlights a problem we're going to need to address soon: the distribution of global hashrate and ASICs (note: This is not an anti-ASIC post)

It's unlikely WafflePool will launch a double spend attack on Doge anytime soon as the profits from doing so would likely not be worth the future mining profits they'd lose from the huge blow to the altcoin market news of such an attack would bring.
More importantly though, it's come to light that 23 GH/s of WafflePool's hashrate (>62%) is coming from a single whale (link), with evidence pointing to him/her making heavy use of ASICs. Note the naming convention of several workers indicate they're gridseed setups. Also note how each worker has a huge individual hashrate between 300-1000 Mh/s in mining power, making the pool-within-pool theory unlikely, unless contending that the pool consists of 36 individual huge farms.
This person or group alone controls over 30% of the hashrate of the entire Dogecoin network
Assuming that this is one of the first huge scrypt ASIC farms, this highlights several issues we're going to have to deal with soon. There's a lot of debate over how ASICs will affect dogecoin, and no one can truly say for sure what will happen. But a couple of things are becoming increasingly clear:
  1. As ASICs come online, the overall Scrypt hashrate of Multipools is going to jump as large profit driven mining operations upgrade
  2. If Dogecoin is going to stick with Scrypt we need to find a way to ensure that dedicated Dogecoin miners get access to ASICs in order to counteract this jump in multipool hashrate.
  3. We are going to run into increased risks of hashrate centralization as ASIC manufacturers will always have access to their state of the art hardware before consumers, (and like what happened to Bitcoin, will often use it to mine for themselves for months before releasing it to their customers)
  4. Bitcoin did not have to deal with Multipools that could move on to another coin if their's died when dealing with the transition to ASICs. This is a unique problem without precedent
Scrypt-N is not the only way to deal with these problems
We need to come together to brainstorm how the community can strengthen itself. The problem isn't necessarily the ASICs themselves, it's access to them. If we really aren't going to change our proof of work algo to something ASIC resistant, then we need to start thinking about the following questions:
  1. How can we make sure that Doge miners stay up to date with ASIC availability and pricing to give them the best shot of obtaining them?
  2. How can we monitor manufacturers to try and fight for as much transparency as possible?
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Word of warning to those of you considering buying from GAWminers

In the hopes of helping prevent someone else from falling for the same trap, I will brief you on my experience with GAWminers (a seller of ASIC mining hardware, in case you're not already familiar)
To begin with, let me just say I've never been too serious about mining Dogecoin. I already know I missed that boat when I was too late to the bitcoin party. I just like to have enough to play around with, tip out, or more recently, play some Dogecoin poker on IRC in #dogecoin-holdem (it's not mine, I just have lots of fun there). So, over the past 8 months or so, I've sort of made it a hobby to buy some hardware to grab some more doge out of the ether. A video card here and there, a new power supply to support a couple of 7970s in one box, etc. Y'know, stuff I'll still be able to use long after cryptocoins are long forgotten or whatever.
I looked from afar as ASICs took over Bitcoin and always assumed they'd make their way over to Scrypt, and that I might dabble in one at some point just for funsies.
In early July, that moment came. I saw the GAWminers fury, and after being beeped on IRC every other minute by somebody talking about their GAWminers fury (my username and their product name is an unfortunate coincidence), I decided it was time to give it a shot. Except instead of one, it was 3. Three GAWminers fury ASICs. Just for funsies. $105 each, at the time. $315 to basically have double my previous max hashing power in less than 1/10th of the power. I figure, I've spent at least twice that much on a video card which I don't use 90% of the time, might as whale. Dogecoin's fun, and this will get me more doge.
Only, it didn't stop there. I got them set up, and a week later, I could not help myself, I went ahead and bought a Black Widow too. It was priced at $450 at the time, except I had a $10 coupon sitting there for supposedly leaving my cart unchecked-out for a while. Might as whale. This same day, the price of the fury was dropped to $60 each. Alright, no big deal, price drops happen, I'll just get a credit or a refund and put it toward another Black Widow or something. Only thing that showed up in my email inbox was "request rejected", there was no explanation or anything. I guess their policy is no, then.
Not only that, but the Black Widow shortly thereafter dropped to $350, and the fury then to $40. For those keeping count, that's a little under $300 in total price drops that happened to the stuff I bought, and that's just within a couple weeks. I can only imagine what it feels like to be one of the really early adopters of this stuff who paid over $200 for a fury, or someone who poured many thousands of dollars into it.
Fast forward to some time after GAWminers updated their site, and I got directed to the support site where it turns out I actually did get a written response to my refund request--it just never made its way to my email inbox, I didn't know this support site ever existed before. It was an apologetic offer for $50 store credit and a brief claim that whatever they're pricing it at is already lower than what they get charged by their suppliers, and if they gave every customer a refund they'd go out of business, etc. (Wouldn't one go out of business by always charging less than what it costs to buy the stuff? I'm not terribly good at economics, though I would think making it up in volume is still a net negative)
I chose to give the benefit of the doubt. These are human beings behind these companies after all, and they're just trying to stay above water in a fiercely competitive and rapidly changing world. What would I do in their shoes? I don't know.
So, given their offer of a store credit (which I have not yet seen applied to my account), and some apparent speculation from the GAW CEO that mining hardware is no longer being manufactured and may rise in price, I chalk it up to bad luck, I've never been a particularly good gambler, and I'll just continue to have fun with the doge I'm mining, maybe bite once more if the mood feels right.
Sure enough, a few days ago, I see this OneMiner thing offering a Lightning X6, 42 MH/s for $700. Not a bad price, I thought to myself, as I had just spent $750 for about 20 MH/s from GAWminers. Might as whale. At this point, I am completely unaware that OneMiner is a GAWminers thing. I know, a quick Google search would have solved that question for me, but it didn't occur to me. I sure found out once the charge appeared on my bank card. $1400 for a pair of Lightning X6's from my friends at good ol' GAWminers. I meant to only purchase 1, but apparently somewhere along the line I double clicked the "I want one" button and had added a second one to my cart. Strike two for my attentiveness and foresight. That's fine, though, I was ready and willing to roll with that. I easily blow that much on phones or tablets that I hardly use. Might as whale. And GAWminers had in fact extended an offer for some store credit, so I figure they're decent enough people and I might take that store credit and buy a little thing later on to grab a few more gigglehashes.
Less than 24 hours later, the GAW CEO posted a $150 Black Widow sale (the thread for which is now deleted from hashtalk). One third the price I had just paid for a Black Widow a few weeks ago. Effectively, 6 of those would've roughly equalled the hashing rate I had just spent $1400 on (not counting the difference in power usage), so I feel like I just wasted $500 in a matter of hours. So much for mining hardware going up in price.
That's it for me. Even if they do give me the $50 store credit, I'm done doing business with a company that treats their customers in this way. They're afraid they'll go out of business if they credit back the hundreds of dollars in rapid price drops I've helped them subsidize? How about they're going to go out of business if they keep doing this and losing customers to it?
These games they play with people's hard-earned dollars only have one winner, and that winner's name is GAWminers. This stopped being fun, and shit got real, real quick.
I know, shit already got real when I spent over $2,000 again for hardware to mine a coin. I lost sight of my real goal, which was just to have fun and make more dogecoins and be able to play around with it more. But I also lost sleep over this. I lost money that I could have spent giving something good to the community or doing something good for myself like, say, some decent clothes instead of the same 4 shirts I wear over and over again. I consider myself fortunate that I didn't go even further and lose even more.
To be clear: this is entirely my fault. GAWminers' business model is very clear in that they do not care about customers--there are numerous threads just like mine all over the internet, most of them even worse off than me. The business model apparently works for GAW, or they'd have changed their policies to something more in line with other companies that I do business with. I take full responsibility for my lack of control and my being too trusting, and getting in too deep for my own good. I post this not to fish for sympathy, nor to shame GAWminers into refunding me or giving me more store credit. Like I said, I've decided I'm no longer doing business with that company anyway--it would take a pretty significant effort on their part to earn back my trust, and it wouldn't be worth it to them in the long run. Rather, I post this in the hopes that it keeps someone else from going down this same path.
It's the story of my life. Missed opportunities. It's already too late, I missed my chance to get filthy rich off bitcoin by not mining with my 7970 for all of 2012, there's nothing I can do now that will make up for it and I don't know why I thought pouring hundreds of dollars down the drain would.
Don't get lost in the same trap I did. Curb your appetite for the gigglehashes, and be content with the 20 or 30 doge you now receive per day with your dual core CPU. Or just be happy hanging around on IRC or reddit collecting tips and watching as people happily burn billions of doge. ASIC mining is a dangerous hobby to get into, and it's easy to lose your ass if you're not careful.
I leave you with a Kenny Rogers song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4
Time to fold 'em and run.
tl;dr:
  1. Doge is fun. I bought 4 or 5 video cards this year to mine more doge, because doge is fun.
  2. I bought a few furies for funsies.
  3. Price drops on the furies the same day I buy a Widow. Price drops on the Widows shortly thereafter.
  4. GAWminers doesn't want to go out of business, won't credit me the full amount of the price drop.
  5. Bought a couple of Lightning X6's on OneMiner
  6. Turns out OneMiner is GAWminers. My bad.
  7. GAWminers cuts price on Black Widow by another couple hundred dollars.
  8. GAWminers doesn't want to go out of business, but won't stop dropping prices immediately after stupid people like me purchase hundreds of dollars worth of hardware.
  9. This isn't fun anymore. Don't make the same mistakes I did.
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Help understanding how much I'm actually mining, if any.

First off, sorry if this is the wrong place for this but this community is what inspired me to start the arduous journey and I'm finally here at 4 am looking at my screen mining.... Lite coins that is.. YES, I'm sorry I know this is /bitcoin but you guys seem so awesome and friendly I figured this was worth a shot. It took me forever but I finally got guiminer going and I'm getting between 70-85 mh/s with the difficulty at 256. Every couple of minutes it will say "stratum from pool 0 detected new block".. What does this mean? Am I doing this right? And lastly, is this a viable way to save up money to maybe start mining bitcoins? I'm just a broke student looking to make some cash on the side with his minimum wage job. Thanks for reading :)
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MAD Doge - Merging Lanes - 9-17-2014

Wow, it sure has been some time, what has happened?
  1. DogeCoin dropped...hardcore
  2. DogeCoin "Merged"
  3. DogeCoin Spiked
  4. DogeCoin is normalizing
Before we go into too much at the moment, I'll just catch you up on what's been going on with me.

MAD Doge Happenings:

To summarize, I left for awhile to get away from /dogecoin, and away from the drop. It's neat to see that the market is rallying, but there are consequences of such things. I haven't stopped mining, I have a video that's actually really quite helpful, but that's down the road. Oh and I'm gaining some help by trading stocks and taking a class on the subject.
Enough about me....time for the meat.

DogeCoin Merge

DogeCoin Value

DogeCoin Pricing

What do I mean by set previously?

Keep on shibing!
Oh and one last thing, the website and /MADDOGE is not going to look amazing for awhile, but I'll complete it over the next few weeks.
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